One Killed, Two Wounded in Houston Megachurch Shooting

  • A woman opened fire inside celebrity preacher Joel Osteen's megachurch in Houston, Texas on Sunday, before being shot and killed by off-duty police officers. Two other people were injured in the shooting including a young boy who is now in critical condition. ABC News
  • The woman, identified as 36-year-old Genesse Ivonne Moreno, entered the church alongside her seven-year-old son, who was shot in the head and critically injured in the exchange of gunfire between Moreno and authorities. It's not yet known who fired the shot that injured the boy. NBC (LR: 2 CP: 4)
  • Authorities say the shooting started at Lakewood Church around 1:53 p.m. on Sunday, just before the church's Spanish language services were set to begin. After being shot by police, Moreno told authorities that she had brought a bomb with her, however, no explosives were found. FOX News (LR: 4 CP: 4)
  • Moreno reportedly used an AR-15 rifle with "Palestine" written on it. Authorities also reportedly found anti-semitic writings in her belongings. The motive for the shooting is still under investigation and authorities have not ruled out terrorism or a hate crime. NBC (LR: 2 CP: 4)
  • Moreno reportedly had a recorded history of mental health issues. Authorities are investigating how she was able to obtain weapons with her history of mental health problems. The AR-15 used in the shooting was obtained legally in December. ABC13 Houston
  • The two off-duty officers from the Houston Police Department and the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission who engaged the shooter have both been placed on administrative duty. The assignment is per protocol. Associated Press (LR: 3 CP: 5)

Narrative A:

  • Thanks to the quick action of two off-duty law enforcement officers, the suspect was stopped before she was able to cause more damage. Had the shooting occurred during a busier church service, or had law enforcement not acted so quickly, this shooting could have ended up much worse than it did. Although a child was injured in this incident, the person to blame is the mother, who chose to bring her innocent child with her when she went to perpetrate senseless violence.
    FOX NEWS (LR: 4 CP: 4)

Narrative B:

  • Moreno was a disturbed individual with a well-documented history of mental health issues. She should never have been able to legally obtain a firearm, yet she did, and two people were injured as a result. She should have been on local law enforcement's radar since she was placed on an emergency mental health detention in 2016. Lawmakers and police need to work proactively to keep weapons out of the hands of dangerous and disturbed individuals so tragedies like this don't happen.
    NBC (LR: 2 CP: 4)

Nerd narrative:

  • There's a 50% chance that there will be at least 1.40 small firearms per capita in the USA by 2029, according to the Metaculus prediction community.
    METACULUS (LR: 3 CP: 3)
AstridWipenaugh,

You forgot to say who shot the child in the head and an older man in the leg. Hint: it was the good guys with guns.

VampyreOfNazareth,

Another radicalised social media nutter.

Supervivens,

I’m sorry, how do they expect someone to be on cop’s radar for eight years after only a mental health detention? Like it’s one thing if they had actually already done/threatened to do something, but that seems a bit much. Also, how can they both claim the gun was obtained illegally but also she shouldn’t have been able to get it with her history? Like it’s one or the other.

Death_Equity, (edited )

I am not a lawyer and I do not know the full details of her record or Texas law.

I believe the question of legality comes down to exactly what the psychiatric hold was. It was involuntary, but it doesn’t seem that it was court ordered by a judge.

On the 4473 Firearms Transaction Record question 21g it asks:

Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution? Yes | No

If the involuntary temporary hold ordered by the police does not count as being committed, she could answer “No” and have a fireaem transferred to her legally.

Had she answered “yes” or if the temporary psychiatric hold counts as being “committed”, then she would fail the background check and be denied the transfer under federal law. If it counted as being “committed” and she answered “no”, that would be additional federal charges for lying on a 4473. If she answered “yes” and the employee processing the transfer missed that she had given a disqualifying answer, that employee and business are in deep shit.

If the psychiatric hold does count as being “committed” and she passed the background check with a “no” answer, then the blame would fall on the department or agency responsible for reporting the psychiatric hold to the relevant agency.

She is trans or(she has been female since birth, unknown if she has identified as male) has previously gone by a male name as an alias, which may impede a background check being successful if a social security number is not provided on the 4473, a new SSN was issued, or a driver’s license number is a new issue instead of a change of name after the involuntary temporary psychiatric hold.

She had a few charges in her criminal history that were dismissed or pled down to misdemeanor charges. If she had a felony conviction then she would be a prohibited person.

Landmammals,

Those are rookie numbers.

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